@Humpleupagus @pernia @dj @MMS21 @Hyperhidrosis yeah its sad its mostly a lie. People live vince gironda exist and u can have a great body but they dont show off people like him hes not overexagerated enough. I tell people to look at rock climbers amd swimmers if they want to see what peak physical physique looks like. Itcan be delicious but u do have to adjust your expectations