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@icedquinn@blob.cat Yeah, it's sad that the ones who wants to be better than China are unable to offer a better alternative to a lot of chinese products, up to a point the Chinese are gaining a big market share in the west.

Either they wake up and start producing useful stuff in an affordable manner, or in a couple of years everything will be China. Just like everything was the US a few decades ago.

And don't get me wrong. Most products made in China and sold cheap, have a "questionable" quality, to say the least. But even those often offer more features than a "premium quality" western products. It's like comparing a Huawei phone to an Apple phone.