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@kaia@brotka.st I'm sure which models exactly are good right now because I'm not interesting in anything post 2009.

But in general the the rule of thumb to consider for buying cost effective refurbished hardware is that the price will usually hit is sweet spot at 4-6 years after release because that is the exact point when computers get written off by organizations who have bought them new in bulk.

So you should be looking for 2018-2020 models now.