@nicholas @freon if forced in to picking one i told them i'd rather just pick up a PMP. everyone hears scrum or agile and they know they're about to get a feckless retard bombarding them with meetings and everyone will call it "scrum" but it won't actually have any of the autonomy, flat structure, or scrum master helping anyone, its just management fucking around.

people see project manager and they don't know what to think yet