@white_male @cowanon @freemayonnaise @AmonMaritza @Aly @TrevorGoodchild @Viking5050 @epictittus @wing_str @xx99 @jeffcliff They do, but their argument is nothing but begging the question. For example:
>"How do you know those bacteria didn't show up to help stop the toxins and clean up the infection?" (They go away with antibiotics and the symptoms do too. We can inject just the proteins from dead bacteria and induce malaise.)
>Viruses aren't real because experiments (nasal swab experiment failed to spread influenza when nasal mucus was placed into nose of healthy test subjects, likely subjects had existing immunity or viral load at nose was insufficient)
>Toxins (these either violate conservation of energy/matter or are a functionally equivalent to viruses. Either way never defined).