@amerika @Suiseiseki @romin @taylan

> We could mention the giant fuckup that Perl 6 was in here somewhere.

:larry: Way before Perl 6 was released, Larry Wall joked that someone had snuck around and released Perl 6 already and called it "Ruby" and the hackers lol'd, and then the humorless dicks got involved and he had to walk it back and say "Objects are confusing!" (If we're talking about OO Perl, I'd agree, but Perl 6's object system seemed fine. People don't seem to have trouble with objects in Lua.)

> Or the recent giant fuckups by whoever administers PHP.

Well, it's PHP.