Betsy. (a muffin).@simsa03 I think it depends on how you define the "climate movement." I for example DO consider myself an environmental advocate. When I point out that simplistic models of decarbonization and defossilization are inadequate, or that naive solutions will hurt the already-downtrodden, it is a call to do the harder work of a REAL solution, not a capitulation to the idea that someone has to be screwed over.
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