@oldredsubby You ought to sit around a seder table and have this convo with the many beliefs held by one Jewish family. Some loved Rabin, some thought him a traitor. It depends a lot on your connection to Israel. Our American Jewish family (also Holocaust survivors) thought him a hero for seeking a peaceful resolution. Our Israeli Jewish family, not so much. To be fair, those from Israel had experienced attacks and bombings from extremists. Harder to judge the folks living with that fear.