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@icedquinn @frogzone you underestimate how dumb people can get when presented with an opportunity to jump on a hate bandwagon for a popular thing. There's surely some industry-sponsored actors helping them along with sponsored research and the like, but I'd say 95%+ of it is completely organic, nobody even had to tell them to be mad, they were mad by default.

Also I'm not sure helping an entire country of people retain sovereignty, ensuring its, and Finland's alignment, turning the Baltic into a NATO lake, testing out newer weapons and exposing Russia as a paper tiger could be considered a "wasted war", it seems to me like the best thing the US spent tax dollars since the actual moon landings. Usually they just go into helping lobbying monopolists along lol