@ai6yr One time I had a bad starter motor & barely got the car to start, so I drove it to Kragen's and removed the starter motor in their parking lot. Got a rebuilt. Installed it. Spun the wrong way. Took it out. Got another. Installed it. Spun the wrong way. Took it out. Stood with the clerk testing starter motors. Bad batch from rebuilders. Had one good one. Installed it. Worked fine. Finally stopped cursing.