The trouble is you look at Oregon and their mass de-criminalization of everything (including heroin) has made all their cities and even towns/outlying areas totally unlivable. There are people who really are too stupid to self regulate and they simply don't die off fast enough for the problem to fix itself.

So maybe we're missing the other libertarian piece of this, which is to deny all public services and health to the drug addicts if they can't pay their own way? At least they'd die off faster. I still don't feel like that would be enough.

Going further on with Oregon, I was visiting a friend yonks ago and her husband's aunts were visiting from waaay out. They said even with farm permits, there was organized crime and shake down for licensed weed growers. You could report it to the sheriff because they were part of the shakedown and taking a cut.

Oklahoma voted against full legalization of cannabis because of all the issues (including organized crime) they've had with medicinal legalization. In Illinois, they scan your drivers license at dispensaries and transmit that data to all others in their chain for buying/daily limits. They claim the data is deleted daily, but you can never trust them. Once again, I guess the more libertarian approach (remove limits for stores so they're not required to track) would work out better, except it would create massive demand as people would smurf around stores to traffic out of state (like they do in Colorado).

..and I smoke a lot of weed, but I still see that this isn't a cut and dry issue. It's not all "just legalize it and you solve problems," because it really just creates an entirely different set of problems.