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@ntnsndr that makes sense that we don't always have to participate in democratic processes even when have the option, but i think that undercuts the tocquevillian argument i think you are making.

don't we actually have to participate in group decision making in order to learn the skills and habits that will support larger democracy?

you are right that i place to much emphasis on "fun", but i do think there needs to be other benefits of democracy besides a richer set of options in a crisis.