@LukeAlmighty @beardalaxy it's not (necessarily) that manipulative is negative (I do nearly always see it that way tho) but rather that it ascribes a particular intent regarding behavior towards the other party

my point is that even in the event that you specifically decide NOT to attempt to manipulate the other party, refraining from a common social practice will generally leave you at a disadvantage. so I figure it's perfectly reasonable to imitate others with the intent to fit in so to speak

similarly, are perfume and cologne manipulative? or even just antiperspirant for that matter. humans don't naturally smell that way. I think it comes down to context and intent

> cannot find the correct word

intentional? but I (think I) understood your meaning