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@arrrg Discouraging voting, or displaying attitudes against voting, is 'trying to make the dems lose'. Of course this conversation is far bigger than just you or I, but it's composed of people just like you or I.

But it seems overwhelmingly clear that you don't understand that there won't be another election if the dems lose this one. I had your attitude in 2016 when we could afford to lose because of the Dems' hubris. The Dems didn't learn their lesson from losing to Trump the first time. Don't like genocide? Well you should not like the trans and ukrainian genocides that will happen if the Dems don't win.