"Disagree, giving people money absolutely is nanny stuff. "
The state is supposed to be looking after everyone. Your definition means everything it does is nanny state stuff. Your definition is naff.
"Right, like taking their money at gun point "
Silly response
It''s OUR money. Where do you think Gov money comes from? And BTW, cost is not an issue for most Govs because they can create as much as they like.