@dalias @ariadne @leftpaddotpy @dysfun Well, systemd focusses on real-life systems that have potentially complex storage.Not having device events in userspace is not going to work for this.Sure in specialist cases you can make your system work like a 1980s PC with no hotplug,but this is generally not in focus for us,hence no,a system with udev but without systemd will require some hacking around,it's not a scenario systemd will be particularly friendly towards,or that we as maintainers care for.