@NeonPurpleStar @lain @augustus @lebronjames75 I'm sure there are other worse takes that I have made.

I still think that what I said here is generally true. It might still take a change in government or a few more generations to see the change. I just don't think that the russian people are that bad, that they have kind of been westernised because of what gets imported. At least the younger generations or english speaking ones. Have the elite children get educated in Germany or Britain, somewhere with prestige in the west... it is amazing what educational propaganda does to young minds. I'm not advocating that we should do this, it just seems really effective. More than wars. I was amazed to learn about a few instances of how cosy Russians are in the west. One guy owned a football club and basically had to give it away. Foreign investment is insane.