@BowsacNoodle @Ghislaine @GoodBoyUV dudes see the gains and push cycles too long, reducing the ability of the body to bounce back, or dose too heavily. there was lots of research into this stuff back in the day and found it was fairly low risk, and made men stronger when used properly. that's why it had to go. frankly there are less downsides to a proper cycle of test than the birth control they push onto every teenage girl these days

but the hormonal system is extremely complicated and should not be trifled with. got to enter with a clear, achievable goal and methodology and limits as to what you'll do