@Moon @Arcana @newt @scathach We are not entirely there yet. We are at the phase when it's only money. For example, buy Ariel Atom. It's new and it's a car, what's not to like? No spyware in that one. Or, if that is too radical, you can buy a Jeep Wrangler. Then do an engine swap. Sorry, I had to replace the PCM, because you see... Also, about that cabin node and telematics: my Kanga cage install required to cut the antenna cables so whatevs.