@mangeurdenuage @colahpse @Moon @rms that's one of the reason I advocate for a law to ban them for kids. It solves the parents dilemma for them, it could also force a moral hysteria between the parents about it which would end them actually complying... for the better or for the worst, there could be side effects, but goddammit the parents absolutely won't do shit by themselves and doesn't have the skills to