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@eriner how is government not a quantifiable entity? And I don't feel ruled by fear from God at all. And God never indoctrinated me either, I walked my own path. I rejected the premise, was an atheist for decades, until I realized I needed to defend by position, reaching for the truth, for the origins, led me back.

I became to believe in Jesus because his words are so pure and filled with truth. I also do not like to call myself a Christian becuase then I take on sins of the "Church"'s