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'I'd put "natural rights" as those things which a stranger may not prevent you from doing, and "civil rights" as the things that are due to you by statute, the things that define your relationship to the government.'

We are saying roughly the same thing, except that the stranger in the natural rights example is government.

Stuff that stops murder, etc. is common law.