@Truthy @Johncdvorak
4) now they dislike or outright hate the original reason they came here in the first place, but they stay due to the relationships they've built within the community
the older a community gets, the more of these people it builds up. eventually they overwhelm the remaining supporters, then they leave, and it devolves into a hate community.
not saying that has happened here yet, but it often happens and I've seen early signs of it for a while