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<blockquote style="position: relative; padding-left: 55px;"><section><a href="https://social.coop/users/shauna/statuses/110193678518686915">Shauna GM (shauna@social.coop)'s status on Saturday, 06-Jan-2024 17:58:18 JST</a><a href="https://social.coop/@shauna" title="shauna@social.coop"><img src="https://gnusocial.jp/avatar/84683-48-20230122200954.webp" width="48" height="48" alt="Shauna GM" style="position: absolute; left: 0; top: 0;">Shauna GM</a><div><a href="https://social.coop/@shauna/110193664179642128" rel="in-reply-to">in reply to</a></div></section><article><p>Given how roads are designed, speed limits set, and crosswalks placed, I have to agree with Dumbaugh when he calls road engineering a "fraud discipline".</p><p>Why is it so bad? One cause might be education. The majority of traffic engineering programs in the U.S. "do not have a single course that covers the issue of road safety". </p><p>One study found that less than 25% of programs said they offered a safety course, and of those, a third didn't actually offer one.</p></article><footer><a rel="bookmark" href="https://gnusocial.jp/conversation/1385740#notice-5047378">In conversation</a><time datetime="2024-01-06T17:58:18+09:00" title="Saturday, 06-Jan-2024 17:58:18 JST">about 11 months ago</time> <span>from <span><a href="https://social.coop/@shauna/110193678518686915" rel="external" title="Sent from social.coop via ActivityPub">social.coop</a></span></span><a href="https://social.coop/@shauna/110193678518686915">permalink</a><h4>Attachments</h4><ol><li><label><a rel="external" href="https://gnusocial.jp/attachment/2071973">“I say this as somebody with a PhD in civil and environmental engineering from a wonderful university. Traffic engineering is a fraud discipline,” Dumbaugh declares. “It presumes knowledge on road safety that it doesn’t have and it educates people generation after generation on information that is incorrect. So it allows people to graduate with this degree, with a designation that they are an expert in the field and which they have no substantive knowledge of whatsoever. **Most traffic engineering programs in the U.S. do not have a single course that covers the issue of road safety.** If they get it at all, they get it, at best, as a lecture—it is part of a class on traffic engineering, on building streets for high speeds.” Research corroborates this. One study surveyed 117 transportation engineering programs in the U.S. Less than 25 percent self-identified as offering a safety course, and when the researchers looked into it, a third of the courses were actually just traffic engineering and highway design courses—teaching the same old rules, not safety at all.</a></label><br><a href="https://social-coop-media.ams3.cdn.digitaloceanspaces.com/media_attachments/files/110/193/677/799/160/654/original/848878ccda88307b.png" rel="external">https://social-coop-media.ams3.cdn.digitaloceanspaces.com/media_attachments/files/110/193/677/799/160/654/original/848878ccda88307b.png</a></li></ol></footer></blockquote>

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Shauna GM (shauna@social.coop)'s status on Saturday, 06-Jan-2024 17:58:18 JST Shauna GM
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Given how roads are designed, speed limits set, and crosswalks placed, I have to agree with Dumbaugh when he calls road engineering a "fraud discipline".
Why is it so bad? One cause might be education. The majority of traffic engineering programs in the U.S. "do not have a single course that covers the issue of road safety".
One study found that less than 25% of programs said they offered a safety course, and of those, a third didn't actually offer one.
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1. “I say this as somebody with a PhD in civil and environmental engineering from a wonderful university. Traffic engineering is a fraud discipline,” Dumbaugh declares. “It presumes knowledge on road safety that it doesn’t have and it educates people generation after generation on information that is incorrect. So it allows people to graduate with this degree, with a designation that they are an expert in the field and which they have no substantive knowledge of whatsoever. **Most traffic engineering programs in the U.S. do not have a single course that covers the issue of road safety.** If they get it at all, they get it, at best, as a lecture—it is part of a class on traffic engineering, on building streets for high speeds.” Research corroborates this. One study surveyed 117 transportation engineering programs in the U.S. Less than 25 percent self-identified as offering a safety course, and when the researchers looked into it, a third of the courses were actually just traffic engineering and highway design courses—teaching the same old rules, not safety at all.
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