gnutelephony@DamienMarieAtHope indeed, and the beliefs in America were a product of Calvinism. Our poor luck that worst of that sick belief system, Dutch / English pilgrim Calvinists, clawed ashore up here, rather than just Spanish Catholic conquistadors. These Pilgrims declared themselves the "new Israelites" and went on to relive the old testament book of Joshua thru deliberate mass killing.
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