@Turkleton @givenup @Shlomo I don't like that Ukranians died for this. That was my criticism from day one. It doesn't mean they should hand over their country to a foreign nation, but it seems like it was already pretty corrupt before this. I have friends who grew up in the Soviet Union before collapse who have stated that Ukraine is terribly corrupt and Russia is attempting to make Soviet empire 2. Seems like it's a bad spot and normal people are unfortunately caught in the middle, as is often the case.