@Hoss i mean atleast europeans (in the east atleast) aren't buying all this shit. government does one thing, people another. american's actually swallow this shit whole it's insane, i mean from living in two countries, the sheer magnitude of americas brainwashing is insane. its like some fucking dystopian 1984 soviet shit, the news the schools nothing is remotely trustworthy and they all push this jingoist narrative about todays largest empire, and that democracy is the ultimate god and also synonymous with american capitalism, that its uniquely special. like it was an american invention. any foreigner sucking this cock especially are brainwashed just the same by the american influence particularly on the west. while euros may not fall for this shit, its leader sure push this like any other fucking historical colony. i suppose atleast in my experience in latvia, historically serving under all sorts of differing opressive regimes, people are used to seperating this and viewing it as unrepresentative. goes for a lot the east. can't say the same for americans, who were never occupied, many of whom unironically think of it as the holy land (mormons), its a satanic zion, it's truly an awful force on the world