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@Humpleupagus @CapitalB A good friend's father had a union job at the Ford plant in St.Paul. Had to have both his knees done and made it to his 70's but not his 80's I don't think. Could barely still walk in his retirement. Pi$$ed himself down his leg without knowing he was doing it if he drank beer with us while we worked on cars in the garage. The assembly line was no picnic whatever your race. Even now union or not, its repetitive motions are ...painful down the line.