@Robert_Edwardly @Griffith @deVoid @Omega_Variant @Owl @Shadowman311 I'd actually be fine with civic nationalism in the right framework (think starship troopers) where stratification existed between citizens and denizens. We will never see that as a political option, and it shouldn't be a replacement for self-interest in one's own people. A true meritocratic or democratic society also wouldn't create the issues that require racial advocacy, unlike what we have today.