@dassauerkraut @EdBoatConnoisseur @basadeskaiser @Vril_Oreilly @transgrammaractivist @Mutsu_a125 @Paultron @sickburnbro @sapphire @skylar For a while, you could buy a Kia soul (🤢) or hyndai Elantra bear bones models and drive off the lot for like 16k net of taxes new. It was nice with the 100k mile warranty, even if that was realistically all you were going to get out of it. Things went to crap around like 2012 with fabrication issues and spontaneous fires.