@dassauerkraut @EdBoatConnoisseur @basadeskaiser @Vril_Oreilly @transgrammaractivist @Mutsu_a125 @Paultron @sickburnbro @sapphire @skylar Global economy is in shambles and constraints breed innovation. Hyundai has been doing acceptable quality for a while now. They have those massive issues that plagued like 7 years of their engines with bad bearings causing fires, but the larger engines seem fine. Basically old Hyundai Genesis from before they became their own brand is like the peak for affordable pseudo luxury.