@Svantovit @Hoss Grown ass men with families trooning out is a special kind of disgusting and is an abhorrent betrayal of the woman you're supposed to love. Mind you the whole thing is abominations piled upon abominations, but it is in fact understandable to be upset and concerned about dudes trooning out and screwing over their wives in the same way divorce rape horror stories turn men off women. Obviously divorce rape is vastly more common, but troonery is a special kind of hell, and the chilling effect it has on natural relations between the sexes is very real and destructive.