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@freemo I'd say it is more complicated than that. You know the meaning of "ask culture"?

A strong emphasis on what is good for the group, ask culture and different structures from before could change a lot.

I'm not saying i have a clear picture, just see lots of little hints about stuff working out differently if we look at another culture.

So sorry, your ask for a clear example is a legit question, but i cannot give you one on the spot.