@DrRyanSkelton @General_Degenerate @YeetLibs Yeah I agree and not very many developers have done much anything else remotely interesting or new with the genre other than autistic nips making these types of games with some slight differences. Another enjoyable "not pure" Japanese roguelike style game I played was Nightmare of Druaga and was kind of sad in the generation that game was released that the Dragon Quest Yangus game was never brought over, and neither was the 3rd Torneko game but I guess they're even more niche outside Japan .