@givenup @Sui @mushroom_soup @Darbzilla @Billy_Hughes @Giga_Vril_Breaker @PoalackJokes88 @sargoysmuck @threat Labs are fun. They're pretty dumb sometimes though. The retriever poodle mixes are really good though for less shedding while still being smart, trainable, and high energy. I'm mostly into shepherds because they're so stinking smart it's like training on ez mode and they handle roughhousing and "abuse" (squeezes and such) from kids like it's nothing.