@Sui @Giga_Vril_Breaker @mushroom_soup @Darbzilla @Billy_Hughes @threat Maybe youre conditioned by the brit breeds, most nigbuls are a loud pop from going feral. My neighbor had wolf hybrids and they had more bite, jump, size, etc and I’d trust it over the burger muttbuls that everyone is expecting a nanny dog out of(they’re not).