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@freemo@qoto.org Reading elsewhere: "When one's 24 weeks pregnant, the baby has a chance of survival if they are born. Most babies born before this time cannot live because their lungs and other vital organs are not developed enough."

For me that's a good enough cutoff. Before 24 weeks, they're simply.. blobs of meat which wouldn't survive, and thus cannot really be called individuals. Basically tumors before they become potentially useful. 😋

So I think around 20 weeks is a generous cutoff.