@Big_Richard @meowski @laurel @lnxw37b2 i'm an anarchist too, don't misunderstand me. but the example i posted is a case where this is not true. i might have $100 now and willingly trade it for $50 in the future. to make the example more vivid, let's say i'm someone escaping a war zone. i have $100 on me but i expect the criminals at the border to take away pretty much all of it. i also know someone who has internet access and can get me bitcoin. he buys me $50 worth of bitcoin that his associate will give me the key for once i'm in freedom country, but it'll cost me $100. in this case, i'm valuing future money higher than present money.