@ryo @Misato @matana Can't agree more. I learned English without really thinking about learning it, just by immersing myself. Funny enough, most of it was with Japanese content. The number of Portuguese translations for manga and anime is pretty low compared to English (specially if you go away from the most popular ones), so it was enough motivation (well, tech stuff too). I also changed my OS language, started using it for searches as the results were better, even started thinking in it. My input is way better than my output, though. I still take time to write stuff and the accent isn't that great.

Last week I sat down and decided to learn Japanese too, just for fun. I only knew basic words and sentences from listening to anime, now I'm almost done with Kana. Just being able to read and understand some stuff feels great, no moon runes anymore! (There's still 9999 kanjis, I know). Speaking with a reasonable accent isn't so hard, as the pronunciation is pretty close to Portuguese, only with some pitch changes due to how words are made. We have accent marks to help with that, but there's none in Japanese, so the only way to properly learn is by listening or reading frankenstein stuff like "arigatô", "mangá" and "dôzo". Watching anime without subtitles is a quite fun and immersive experience, as I am able to pay more attention to sounds and visuals instead of reading.