@Soma @DrRyanSkelton yea the only things donte game gave that were kinda cool was the virgin moveset, it was even partially integrated into vergil's moveset in dmc4SE
but capcom are fucking retarded tbh, like you can tell that they could've remade dmc4 for the SE and made it much better than the original, yet they just added more playable characters and then made a pachislot game with cutscenes that honestly should've been in SE