@Moon that's a key it seems, bro in law i think has set a time bomb of disappointment for his one son by buying him a dirt bike to rebuild i fear will never be finished

but that's cool tho its def important to teach kids how to do things and not just hand wave them away

did yall engage in any sport or like challenging outdoor pursuits together?

i think this is an issue within the last few generations, a lack of intergenerational machismo especially

i have a simple philosophy for my kids development and i think it involve not following especially american pop culture's idea of how a society should function