@SoyMagnus @SNEK @Zerglingman @apropos Oh, no, I'm not even a beginning Mandarin speaker. I understand just, like, a handful of Mandarin phrases and if I speak, native speakers just look at me like "What?" and then they figure out what I mean and they say "No, it's like blahblahblah" and it sounds exactly the same to me as the thing I said. I can't hear the tones.