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@kurth @mira just because there are other free software options available doesn't mean that making your free software unusable to someone who isn't willing to commit to going "whole hog" isn't restricting their freedom with respect to your project, that sort of "just go somewhere else" argument isn't particularly convincing to me.

Also I'm not sure what you mean by comparisons to "extreme leftist" stuff or what you're referring to as "bullshit," are you taking issue with the fact that I'm using analogies that come from a leftist analytical context?

Also what are (or rather, were) Debian's sound arguments for not having non free firmware installed on the default netinstall iso?