@Jello @mrnpc @qwerty @Jim well i doubt there's ever gonna be the nightmarish "perfect" society that you prattle on about tbh, I am more confident that things are going to massively regress than move foreward, and i cant say i'd be looking forward to society as it stands moving "foreward" whatever hellish nightmare that would look like, but i will be raising goats adn chickens for milk meat and eggs in the future and htat's that.