@rechelon Yeah sure. I mean, at least a lot of the "not pro-war but tactically like this is the least bad option kinda" crowd seem to acknowledge the evils of the US/EU wanting to get the wheat and do some disaster capitalism or the nazi/nationalist shit. But also plenty have gone there and come back like "Azov Battalion isn't that bad, they just want what we want" like mate what the fuck happened to your principles. So not like people who aren't outright anti-war aren't weirdo wingnuts too