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@TruthSandwich @Alon @futurebird

It's the only sane framing. You have exemplified it over and over in this thread by focusing on how pushing for what people think is good is damaging your change of getting something that can pass in terms of UHC for example.

This is *only* a problem because of your effectively two-party system. It's a discussion that hardly never happens in places with proportional systems.