@itzpaquet @condret I think that's fair, I'm not even saying it's a reason to keep capitalism around, just that I think there are a handful of situations where you can say it gets results faster, at a cost.

My suspicion is I don't think money ever goes away even in the best-case socialism scenario so yeah some kind of market system abides. so it may be possible to get these advantages separated from the exploitation in the current system. Some situation where money still exists but it's got social controls on it.