@kayeluvian we really need to think past "socialized" and state socialist models of providing medical care (and other things) and figure out a decentralized means of providing care for everyone that relies on mutual aid, distributed networks, and voluntary, overlapping, multifarious associations. Like the old lodge system. But of course for that to work we need to tear down a lot of the existing medical system — the rules in the US and UK that make it so that you can't get a license as a doctor if you work on retainer for workers, the intellectual property laws, the laws that serve regulatory capture and artificial monopoly through restriction of supply. And that's a lot harder than just appealing to the state, as your God, to save you.