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@strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz lots of web forges exist because lots of people want to use themPopularity does not even remotely imply quality. You think Windows is the epitome of computing because its the most popular desktop OS? You think Twitter is better than the Fediverse because of its larger userbase? What are you doing here in the first place?Your inabilityMy "inability" to consider bad options as the only viable ones? Their needs can differ, but the solution they're currently aiming for is already done, and it has been done for decades. All they need to do is stop glorifying bloated Javascript hellscapes, and return to thinking a bit more simplistic about their needs, goals, and desires. Not everything has to be solved by coating it in complexity and then slapping a fancy frontend on top of it. And even if you wanted that, making the forges "just a mailing list but with more features" would honestly be a step in the right direction to me, but they're not, and they're never going to be. The only one who took that design approach is SourceHut to my knowledge.Nobody is forcing you to use webforgesHow I wish that were true. Want to contribute in any way to the vast majority of software projects in existence today? You must use a proprietary webforge. You can't even search on GitHub freely without an account anymore. How that kind of control is not worrying to the average person who thinks himself a "developer" is exactly why I think the majority of them are incompetent shits who shouldn't be allowed near any kind of technology.

The post you of mine you referred earlier shows that people do try and force me to use a webforge, or otherwise be denied access to support, issues, or even searching their codebase.

You can call it "pissing in the wind" because the side you prefer is winning. And all they needed to convince you was a shiny web interface and a PR team.

I need a quality platform that truly embraces proven, decentralized, simple, free software. That's where our differences lie.