@AnthonyJK it is actually very fucking annoying, as new as I am to Leftism as my jams and ecosystem to work within, that there is this "well they flirted with us once or twice so we can totally get them to be Leftists who carry the banner into the breach alongside us" while not observing how they, themselves, are straying further and further towards mainline crankery, from a self professed Leftist position.